[identity profile] labingi.livejournal.com
The Passion and the Blood: A Comparison
(Les Misérables through a lens of Trigun)


(big spoilers for both)

In Les Misérables, the musical, the Bishop and Marius, for a time, sing the same melody, the Bishop singing early on about his hopes for Valjean's redemption and Marius, near the play's end, lamenting the deaths of all his friends on the barricade. What's the connection between these songs? Why the thematic echo?

Both songs discuss sacrifice for a noble cause. The Bishop invokes the death of Christ and other martyrs as an illustration of the tenacity of Christian commitment to redemption:

By the witness of the martyrs,
By the passion and the blood,
God has raised you out of darkness.
I have bought your soul for God.


Such great sacrifices in the name of love and kindness must, he suggests, inspire us to like acts of goodness, such as forgiving a thief by giving him the silver he stole, plus candlesticks, and inviting him to use it to start a new chapter in his life.Read more... )
[identity profile] agent-chliever.livejournal.com
I noticed there haven't really been any discussion posts in here for a while, so I thought I'd start a topic.

What would you think of... )

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com
Where do you feel that the musical did the best job of adapting the novel for the stage?

Which parts work the least as an adaptation?

Which parts of the book do you wish had made it into the musical?
[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com
For all the fanfiction readers and writers:

What kinds of Les Mis fic do you like the most?

What kinds of Les Mis fic make you want to smack some sense into the author?

What would you like to see explored in fanfiction that's rarely or never been written?

(Hi, this is [info]letitallgo with a new username. *waves*)

no. 5.

Aug. 20th, 2007 10:34 pm
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
Discuss:

Character in the novel you most want to smack?

Marius, hands-down.

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I've been having a bit of childish fun plugging characters' names into this French version of the white pages:
http://www.pagesjaunes.fr/pb.cgi

5.

Aug. 14th, 2007 12:13 am
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
Discuss (a bit biased, perhaps, on my part):

Why does Valjean get no love in the fandom?

I don't mean that people pretend he's not important to the story, but how many Valjean-fan communities/sites do you see? ;)
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
I've been such a terrible mod; I apologize profusely! The only thing I can say in my defense is that I've been away in Montréal, but still.

Today's discussion title: the most inadvertently amusing performances by actors in the show.

(I have a whole list, really: Uwe Kröger (no words on this one), Dave Willetts, Oliver Thornton, Dudu Fisher, Daphne Rubin-Vega, Julien Combey, etc.)

week 4?

May. 15th, 2007 10:13 pm
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
Hello, sorry I'm late with the discussion.

Alright, so regarding this:

Il dort. Quoique le sort fût pour lui bien étrange,
Il vivait. Il mourut quand il n'eut plus son ange.
La chose simplement d'elle-même arriva,
Comme la nuit se fait lorsque le jour s'en va.


(He sleeps. Although his fate was very strange, he lived. He died when he had no longer his angel. The thing came to pass simply, of itself, as the night comes when day is gone.)

Who do you think wrote it? My best bet would be Cosette, but it seems strange for her to refer to herself in that manner ("son ange").

week 3?

Apr. 29th, 2007 10:05 pm
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
Alright, another (lame) discussion.

Which actors do you think physically look the part, at least canonically?

For me, probably...
Valjean: Ivan Rutherford
Javert: Someone not white, obviously... perhaps Philip Hernández.
Fantine: Rachel York/Susan Spencer
Enjolras: This fellow; I believe it's Alexander Diepold.
Marius: Kevin Kern
Cosette: Ali Ewoldt (although not Filipino; I feel rather nasty saying that!)
Eponine: No one that I've ever encountered.
Thénardier: ?
Mme. Thénardier: ?
Gavroche: ?

Feel free to include Les Amis and Patron-Minette, by the by.


EDIT: I found this amusing, although I don't think it deserves its own post.
From broadwaybox.com's LM reviews:
"Worthwhile, but some oddities about the production.
...Having lived in New York all my life, I am no stranger to our diversity, however the multi-ethnic cast was a distraction as I do not believe it to be historically accurate (although I am going to check it out). It does seem a bit far-fetched to have an African-American in the role of Javert - and his voice didn't seem to be the overriding reason for putting him there - so what were the producers and casting people thinking?"

*snarksnarksnark*

week 1.5.

Apr. 9th, 2007 10:17 pm
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
Alright, here's a new topic.

I recently read an article concerning La Bohème and if it is, indeed, a perfect opera (which I really disagree with).
I highly doubt that Les Mis could ever be considered a perfect musical, but the novel...? Let us regard it. It has a variety of interesting characters, fantastic diction, and an absorbing plot.

So, do you think Les Misérables could be acknowledged as a "perfect" novel? Discuss. :)

EDIT: Er, ignoring the random tangents...?
EDITEDIT: Okay, what if the tangents were completely removed?

week 1.

Apr. 5th, 2007 03:27 pm
[identity profile] devils-child7.livejournal.com
Hello there! I realize that I have been a bit negligent in looking after this comm in the past (although [livejournal.com profile] letitallgo has done a wonderful job), so I have decided to start a bi-weekly discussion thread, if you will.

This week, I think we shall begin with a rather generic question:
Who would be included in your ideal cast (foreign cast members included)?

Since I could never choose just one after having heard at least 50 people in each role, this is my list:

Click. )

EDIT: New layout up because I was slightly bored. :)
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